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von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 23:09
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: August Derleth
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: August Derleth

<r>Dale Nelson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wanted to say that I did notice & think about > the comment on Chandler's Marlowe and Conan. > Would a difference be that Marlowe is a > disillusioned hero, a "tarnished knight" as I > think maybe somebody called h...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 22:39
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: August Derleth
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: August Derleth

<r>I wanted to say that I did notice & think about the comment on Chandler's Marlowe and Conan. Would a difference be that Marlowe is a disillusioned hero, a "tarnished knight" as I think maybe somebody called him, who does still want to live ethically, where Conan never aspired to ideals at som...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 21:51
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?

<r>I want to make sure that it doesn't sound like I'm saying the tragic protagonist, like Oedipus, has to be someone developed as a rounded character with whom the reader or audience becomes interested as we become interested in, say, Henry James's governess in <I><s>[i]</s>The Turn of the Screw<e>[...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 21:14
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?

<r>Dale: "To the degree that the "gods" in Lovecraft are just powerful aliens, with whom some human may run afoul, the fates of those humans might evoke a transient thrill of horror, e.g. the end of "The Haunter of the Dark." I don't actually find I usually feel such a reaction; the characters have ...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 20:43
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?

<r>Sawfish asks, "would it be possible to have tragedy without a heroic victim?" Ah! That's just it! If we no longer have some sense of the earlier understanding of "victim," must not "tragedy" likewise change its meaning? Is that the reason "tragedy" in ordinary current usage now often suggests som...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 20:43
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?

<r>Just picking up from where I left off, before I respond to Sawfish. I wrote: Now, I'm thinking that weird fantasy typically has two types of victims, the hapless folk who "just happened to be there, that's all," and the villain who got caught in his or her own snare -- e.g. the necromancer who ca...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 20:43
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?

<r>Interleaved, below: Dale Nelson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sawfish wrote, "I'm of the opinion that to expose > the reader or audience to the sort of catharsis > you describe, it's necessary for the audience to > significantly attach to a character--and perhap...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 19:59
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: Tragedy in weird fantasy?

<r>Sawfish wrote, "I'm of the opinion that to expose the reader or audience to the sort of catharsis you describe, it's necessary for the audience to significantly attach to a character--and perhaps this must be the central character, or at least a major character. "Further, the attachment must be p...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 19:59
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: August Derleth
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] Re: August Derleth

<r>OK, I'll start a thread on the theme of the artistic legitimacy of weird fiction.<br/> <br/> Source: <URL url="http://www.eldritchdark.com/forum/read.php?1,2841,12374#msg-12374"><s>[url]</s><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.eldritchdark.com/forum/read. ... #msg-12374">http://www.eldritchdark.com/forum/...
von Nyarlathotep
09.12.2019, 19:59
Forum: Anderswo
Thema: [ELDRITCH-DARK] The artistic legitimacy of weird fiction or weird fantasy
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[ELDRITCH-DARK] The artistic legitimacy of weird fiction or weird fantasy

<r>Elsewhere, I've asserted that the artistic legitimacy of a form or genre (or subgenre) is proven if there is even just <I><s>[i]</s>one<e>[/i]</e></I> work that (a) incontestably belongs to that genre as clearly defined, and (b) that achieves something of real worth that could <I><s>[i]</s>only<e...